Last weekend I sat down and watched Sigur Ros’ DVD ‘Heima’. I have to say, it is probably the most amazing music DVd I have ever seen. The way they have worked with the music and visual to show something of the beauty of their country is just astonishing. Sigur Ros say that they fashion their music after the scenery and the people of Iceland.
Watching this, I couldnt help but think of Moltmann and the way he speaks of the Spirit being in all. While I dont want to go where he goes, I would like to reflect on this a bit. There is a sense in which we, having been given the eyes to see who God is, are now able to go into the world and see the beauty and the goodness there for what it really is. There are times then, I think, where we find ourselves seeing, hearing, tasting or smelling something which we cant help but say is a part of God’s good gift to creatures and in a sense reflects something of his love for us. This experience can never become doctrine, but I did sit there with Sigur Ros the other day and was just left in awe of the beauty of God. These people know not what they are doing, but through the eyes of faith we can be given to see something quite astonishing.
Anyway, despite what you think of that 
here is a video
Scott Kirkland
Jason Goroncy Said:
on November 16, 2009 at 7:53 pm
Scott, just out of curiosity, where is it that Moltmann goes that you don’t feel you can travel?
sakirkland Said:
on November 16, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Hi Jason, thanks for the question. Having been taught by Paul Molnar, Moltmann’s panentheism frightens me
I feel at times his language of nature and grace being understood in ‘forward perspective’ obscures the proper relationship of God to creation. By placing God in a redemptive process with creation in the Spirit I think he misses a proper doctrine of the immanent Trinity and confuses nature and grace.That is, he does not want to see the dualities as competing, but rather “in light of the coming glory which will complete both nature and grace, and hence already determines the relationship between the two here and now.” So consequently they will be defined by a “third, common to them both.” That third is conceived by Moltmann as the process common to both which will reconcile the dualities. I find it troubling that at this point he turns to the suffering of the Spirit.
Hope you can make sense of me there. I find Moltmann’s project fascinating though. At the moment I am really trying to work through how his work could perhaps be better appropriated (admittedly I have not read alot of secondary literature here). His grandiose pneumatology at times just seems to ring so true, but then in other parts I find myself wanting to rip the page out
Jason Goroncy Said:
on November 16, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Thanks for that reply Scott. I appreciate reading your thoughts on this. I’d like to read a copy of that essay you mention.